Jan 3, 2012. 20m or 20 yard Sprint Test Results. Heres my issue. You are using an out of date browser. I dont want to over train him. If they are looking at catchers, they probably put eyes on several, but may go to the stat sheet to see how the pop times compared and who they might have missed. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/youth.html. Any specific YouTube training videos anyone would recommend for short burst, form? The server responded with {{status_text}} (code {{status_code}}). If you see guys running with parachutes behind them, turn around and walk out. They said that any 20 yard dash time 3.0 and below was fast. D.K. I provide you these #s just as an illustration for what is possible in a short period of time. 2002-2023 NCSA College Recruiting All Rights Reserved. Like you said in the article, kids rarely fully sprint during practice, so am I on the right track by having his do speed and acceleration work on his off days? I would encourage you to have him not work with anything lighter than a drop 5, going from a drop 10 to a drop 3 has been really tough for many of the smaller kids. 95 sec age 11 90 sec age 12 85 sec age 13 80 sec age 14 75 sec age 15 73 sec age 16. Softball message board with discussions on softball hitting, softball pitching, coaching youth softball and where you can get softball drills and softball tips. In my opinion it is better to play at a school with a weaker program than to sit the bench a a school with a strong program. 42 23.4 (leadoff). I just begun to train my 6y and 10 months old son on the sprint for his soccer gamme. I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. Should I move up to the 800m or keep with the 100, 200, and 400? 40 yard- 6.3 seconds. Oftentimes you will see the scout wander over to the first base side and get his stopwatch ready when the kids comes up to bat. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thanks, Coach Gregory for the input, and I will spend some time looking over the article section of your outstanding and very informative web page. Timed . All times in article are handheld. I had several in the 4.0 range including a 10 year old @135lbs. 800 meter dash: 2:35 -60 Yard Dash: 7.25 or below-Should be able to hit for power as well as average. The old bench press, curl, and squat guys are going extinct, thankfully. In my experience of home to first times, 3.0 is more average than fast. I returned to competition after a 35 year break (yes, you read that right). Im not interested in things that slow you down. Story - while I was at PG this summer, I was speaking to a LOT of college coachesjust because I am very chatty. Sprinting must be taught and practiced. Hes very competitive and plays soccer, basketball, and football. Chad Lakatos coaches at Edwardsville High School. Is that 20 yards, which is equal to 60 feet? I do not. I live in the Atlanta area, and I can say with certainty that while some colleges are going to high school baseball games they are more likely to go to a showcase or to watch a travel team play. Coaching and being around so many people pushing the kids to be excellent athletes I have not heard one person ever mention what Ive read in youre article. Track & field can be a life long sport, if youre not doing killer-mentality training at age 14, thus wearing out parts. It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. Not Replied Hi! Pitchers looking to play at the D1 level should aim to reach an ERA below 2.00. The 60-yard dash is a short race that spans 60 yards and is most often used in professional baseball. Hand held time. Deion Sanders at the 1989 NFL combine ran a 4.27 second 40 yard dash. An average recreational time for a female in the 40 yard (or 36.58 meters) dash is approximately 5.8 seconds. . HELP WANTED: Players / Teams / Coaches / Tourneys, www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouti0-80-scouting-scale/, When the Game tells you that you are no Longer Welcome. Glad I wasted my time reading this and some of the other data. The tables use factors to adjust your time to a comparable performance by a 30-year old (open class) runner. My 10yr old daughter ran the 80metre dash in 9.32secs. They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. They need to wear track spikes. Look for a sprint coach who believes in alactic training. Hi, I dont know what to think of this race times that you wrote My son ran 100m race with 4 Years and two weeks for 26 seconds? I run a two week camp in the summer. 1. Does anyone know what the average college time from home to first is? He was in the top five for his age group. Actually my daughter timed him first. RJ, Exact same scenario for mine. 3.9-4.0 you are looking at a 4.9-5.1I ran a 4.46 electronic in high school at the Nike combine and my 10 yard split was 1.50. After my son grew from 5'11" 135 to 6' 160 I got him 60 time specific training. Its not FA but Im very accurate with a stopwatch. I don't use HIT scoresnot a fan of it and I think you have to test linear speed (as it helps to determine explosive strength and raw force production) and lateral speed. I would expect there to be some improvement gains as one gets older (similar to strength or velocity) but how much is considered typical? Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. The best way to get fast is to join the track team. That is pretty darn fast. Sprint mechanics must be taught. So Ur Doin Rlly Well For A 9 Yr Old! and then he kills it. Speed is measured by running a 60-yard dash. Check out the video below for tips from former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord. Thanks again. June 10 June 21, M-W-F, 8:30 9:45. tony.holler@yahoo.com, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HTwctAHyceamDmwLAPJWJ0BAnSMpDnGvfKXADTm1Ldg/edit?usp=sharing. Kids ask all the time how do I get faster and I tell them you have to run fast. No one walks or dogs at anything. The fastest kids ran 3.3-3.5 range, next group 3.7-3.9 were some of our linebackers and fullbacks. More people are reading SimpliFaster than ever, and each week we bring you compelling content from coaches, sport scientists, and physiotherapists who are devoted to building better athletes. I believe every football player should sprint train consistently starting at the end of football, continuing through the track season, and into the summer. We train elite 10 & 11 year old athletes that run in the 5.7\5.8 range. Based on the age of the athlete, 0.4 - 0.7 s and 4 - 14 cm changes in the 40-yd and VJ, To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. So, you multiply 0.096 by 91.44 you get an approximate 100 yard time of 8.78 seconds. Did the timer say "go" or start the clock when the runner started? Edwardsville won the Illinois 3A (big school) title in 2015 and placed 2nd in 2012, 2014, and 2016. Thanks lot. MLB average also? You can get better coaching at those private lessons you spoke about and your kid might get more playing time on a less competitive team than he would on a team loaded with 6ft+ kids. 1.45 seconds. Hi Tony, I just found this great article after I timed my nine-year-old son and the 40 yard dash. What is the best way for high school catchers to market themselves to D1 college coaches? Even if times are not improving, sprinting pays off. Make sure sprinting is timed. Right now he is probably 4'11 and 80lbs! John Gash, Santa Rosa 7 19.8 100m 1973, 33-0 800g JT 1974,. There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. Lol. (verified by a third party), Infield velocity: Division 1 middle infield recruits will throw the ball across the diamond anywhere between 85 MPH 95 MPH, The prototypical Division I middle infield recruit can hit for high average as well as steal a lot of bases and occasionally hit for power, Infield Velocity: Low 80s and above MPH from SS, Slugging: .450 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Infield velocity: 8795+ MPH from the outfield, OF velocity: 87+ MPH (verified by a neutral source), Slugging: at least 5 HRs as a high school junior and senior, Velocity from the OF: low 80s at least, with the potential to improve, Slugging: Multiple HRs as a high school junior and senior. Getting evaluated by a trusted third-party or a current coach will provide an objective assessment of how a recruit measures up against scholarship-level athletes in relation to these guidelines. If someone gave you that time seriously both you and them are deluded. While all measurables were taken at each showcase the home page of the player shows you the best times/speed in those categories. I do implement sprint training with my combat athletes, as they tend to transfer that into mat area. There isnt any time to train. It will probably be next summer before mine is in the high 6s where things will plane out from there. My point is that freaks can play 2-4 sports. This is a eight-year study. This is without blocks starting in a sprinters stance with tennis shoes on an indoor running track. You cannot simply have them run the same was as a 60, you need them with a bat in hand and see how quickly they get out of the box. After that he ran a 6.59 at HF. This is complete BS. It also drives me crazy when they compare dunking to sprinting. He also play tennis every other day. After a while, I was starting to think that I should move up and start doing 800m more but then I started doing a speed school and focused on top speed and acceleration. I was amazed and we did it several times and the time decreased. The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. Got this from coach Jackson at Poteet a while back. I do three tests for linear speed:10 yard - for quickness (I look at this for every player but I key on it for linemen)20 yard - for speed (most linear runs are just under 20 yards (routes/pursuit/edge runs)40 yard - breakaway speed (tells me who has the extra gear). Check out Claytons 40 times in the graph below. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Kids with weak cores and lower body strength won't do it well and kids that are not athletic will have a hard time coordinating the movement. Youth sports have become a big deal. Whats new with Kinvents third-generation KForce force plates? These are the fastest kids in the city. My kid actually ranks super high in a sixty but doesn't run the bases all thatwell. They may be running relatively fast, but theyre not sprinting. Repeatedly seen him make plays in CFunlike any other (really trying to be objective - his coach has said the same thing). Video must be analyzed. theo coumbis lds; average 40 yard dash time by age chart female Be cautious of speed training with ex-NFL players and ex-college athletes who failed to graduate. Parents strategize. Are colleges moving more toward the recorded speeds of a player going from the plate to first? Thanks for the perspective. Ive witnessed the evolution of sports in America. My advice to athletic-minded parents: Teach your kid to sprint. It also gives the player their home to first time. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. Keep in mind in high school your 9th grader could very easily be pitted against a 17 year old senior. If it is something extra good, we follow up. Chad Lakatos has all the results from his youth speed camps on Edwardsvilles track website from quite a few years. All I hear from kids is they want to go D1 D1 D1, there is nothing wrong with D2, D3 or NAIA if you are playing for the right reasons aka love of the game, Ive seen too many kids who want to say they got a scholarship and love the idea they got a scholarship and quit because theyre burnt out. ". I'm guessing a 7 second 40 is not doable for 99% of anyone over 60. ( bigger stronger and much faster) I was told the only way to post a better time is to do another PG showcase (The WWBA and the other PG tournaments do not have a timed 60 run only PG showcases). Anyone ever watch the little guys make the fake swing and start running to 1st base while the LL coach is yelling at them to "go throughgo through"? Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. Of course anything faster is considered above average. If you play a skill position in football, your 40 time might be the most valuable skill event. My kid goes to a very aggressive school with a strong sports program with a history of kids being recruited to play in college. All of these are sprint-dependent. Your email address will not be published. Physical therapist Vien Vu presents the pros and cons in this product review. What's the average time for a 100 yard dash? After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. Claytons additional marks at age 9. Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. I use 10 yard sprint and the 6 Tire Zig Zag to really look at my linemen as they operate in smaller spaces. One of his favorite coaches noted that he needs to work on speed and recommended 10y sprints and 5-5-5 shuttles to work on speed; which we are doing, but Id like to get him in a more regimented, mature coaching structure than just me outside with him and a stopwatch. Required fields are marked *. The first half of the run is pretty much in line with our rough expectations. Her time splits if anyone is interested for comparison were; 10 yard- 1.8 seconds. Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach, shares how athletes can catch the attention of college coaches in the video below. Go to the PG website and look up the teams attending past or upcoming tournaments, and find out which teams or programs are nearby. College baseball scouts evaluate players by arm strength, fielding range, speed, and hitting for power and average. For some reason, I can find it via Google but it doesn't work when I copy the link into the post. Hit scores are used as part of player evalution, you utilize their weight and speed to determine impact force. Plyometrics must be included. As far as times go, if your roster is set, then it really is only relative to your team. Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. Amazing! Great article. I use shuttle runs, and a variety of drills and games as well, this was actually the first year I've included hit scores. Here's some data we got at one point or another. Rigghhhhhht. Is this normal?? Depending on body type this would be possible2018 (june bday) went from a 7.83 (Feb 2015) as a 15yr old to a 6.96 (Aug 2016) as a 16yr old. Good luck to you guys next week, hope he hit's it. Anything where they change direction a couple of times. And yes, I won't veer from the thread anymore than I already have. I will say that he played his first games on a 90ft diamond in the last month and I noticed that his speed helped him stand out even more. ?. Once the weather allows we will do some out door parachute work to work on that time. P.S I have never had sprint training just playing soccer, basketball, tennis, football, and skiing. The junior has gained almost 20 lbs and dropped from a 6.9 to a 6.68 electronic. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. Average 20-yard dash time for high school softball is approximately 3.5 seconds; NCAA softball is approximately 3.1 seconds. Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. Question: the average 50 yard dash sprint times for 12-13 year olds is 5.44 seconds worth standard deviation of 0.34 seconds. Also wanted to add that I spoke to a pro scout recently who said he oncepersonally clocked Ichiro at 3.25 from home to first. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. For as much as team sports value speed they sure dont seem to put kids in the right environment to develop it. Last week, when I told a track coach to bring their football coach to TFC-4, the track coach replied, We have a better chance of developing cold fusion.. 100 yards is 91.44 meters. And find a way to keep your son in multiple sports through 9-10th grade, it helps with keeping it fun, developing an athlete, cross training, and being with their other friends etc. We were 3 sports thru 9th, 2 thru 10th, then he knew he wanted to focus on baseball. It is one of the reasons coaches caution showcasing early. We mostly do 100 meter running. We paired up with a buddy & had both of them train & it cut cost in a major way ($45 / 1 Hr. She sprint trains a few days a week in the off season. If you see mini-hurdles, the coach probably knows his stuff. Here's the crazy thing. As Im sure you know the amount of money people spend in the Northeast and Lacrosse is astounding. The pressure is evident even in practice. What are college baseball scouts generally looking for at each position? My guy's was more along the lines of Go44's thoughts. Sprinting doesnt happen during a seven-mile run. But wait, this kid will run a 3.8 by the time hes 15 right? This means that Bolt is running at an average pace of 0.096 seconds per meter. . I have a 9yo who is a big kid for his age (411, 100lbs) and plays hockey, lacrosse, & soccer. OBP: .450 Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game) This is data on times based on thirteen years (since 2009) and just over 3000 kids. I have a 7 year old old daughter that can sprint. The velocity during the different phases of the run declined on average from 5 to 6% per decade in males and from 5 to 7% per decade in females . The run just seems to be so critical now for a position player & we do not think twice about paying for hitting or pitching instruction, but proper run mechanics & training can have a major positive impact here. If I had to do only one test for athletic ability it would be the bear crawl. From diet perspective, my kid does not eat salt or spicy food. I am 9 years old and here are my times. What skill sets should individual position players have? My son's program is often a top ten state program and even the guys headed to div 1 had to do showcases and travel team events to be seen. Is this a reasonable expectation of improvement year over year as the player gets older and matures? We can't be very reliable if we report something we didn't actually see. All of these are timed and then I add the times together and the lowest total times are the best athletes on the team. Former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord breaks down what skills D1 college coaches look for in both right-handed and left-handed pitchers. Look at the difference in his timing in the last two months from 26 seconds to 22 seconds. A 60 yard dash time between 67 69 usually equate to an average runner on the playing field. These times are very accurate as the data is polled not only from my teams but teams from all across the country and coaches that personally know. A study published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research found that the hand-timed method produces average 40 times 0.31 seconds faster, and as much as 0.42 seconds faster. mike vernon royal household; are there snakes in gran canaria; shooting in laurel, md yesterday. Then, depending on your age, we multiply the resulting percentage by the appropriate WMA Factor. Interesting information. Go to some games? The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. I am not sure if I have an incredibly fast 10 year old kid or what; however, my son ran a 40-yard dash at 5.1 seconds. Video analysis is a part of every reputable sprint program. I have two baseball players that finally stopped playing basketball. The 20 yard dash test: Procedure: (seconds) 1. 60 Yard & 30 Yard Dash. Endurance athletes are efficient, not fast. This article is misleading at best. To defend the 60, I would not want to be the guy running a true home to 1st drill. I didnt compete against teams from other towns until 7th grade. Clayton comes from an athletic family and has played soccer, baseball, and flag football. Baseball also commonly uses the 60 yard dash in testing. Good luck getting 8 guys to show up for the M95 100 meter dash. Clayton Lakatos is a 75-pound 10-year-old. LMAO apparently they didnt catch that Chris Johnson and RG3 are running 4.2s NOW. SF. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. I also hope you post that question to the board. Had 8 of my 31 players in the sub-5.5 range, and about as many of my linemen at the 6.5+ range. He was busy and so were the coaches I tried to get him to, so before HF he was able to get in just one session with a speed coach, and then he worked on the stuff the coach gave him for a couple weeks. No Practices? Its a great one! 100M 11.71 HH A good 1 mile time for a man is 06:40.This is the average 1 mile time across men of all ages. Based on the above, the numbers from the blog seem fairly accurate. I would be really interested to see how things work out. I dont like how this article reduces sprinting to technique, if that were true, everyone could be fast. I had to wait for mine to buy in before I was willing to spend the $$ ( he is 14). He has been to other camps where recruiters have timed his game speed from home to first base and was told that was more important to colleges. Posted on . I understand individual improvements will vary and will concede that anomilies exist but is this typical? It would be great to speak to you let me know a time that works for you. Winning isn't everything, but the will to win is everything. timmy on December 4, 2011 at 3:42 pm #112861. Your results from the 20 yard dash show that this other kid is faster and just as good of a running back. We have been timing 27 for years so my data is now junk for comparison sake. In my opinion, the best indicator of sprint ability is max-speed. average 40 yard dash time by age chart female. Most kids (other than the absolute stud outliers) need showcases/travel team exposure, even if they're starters in strong programs. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. Concur with above comments; spend time finding out about the local regional club teams. 20 yard dummy flip (we use 40lb and 70lb dummies but you can use seabags filled with a mix of mulch and sand (dry the mulch out) and you can stiffen the bag with cardboard inside. What age do scouts look at baseball players? if you're generally regarded as very fast, then the 3.41 is probably your 30 time. Both measure lateral speed and quickness. The tables presented here age-adjust running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups both male and female. The fastest 60-yard dash was run by both Herb Washington and Mel Pender, who ran it in 5.8 seconds in 1972 and 1973, respectively. What happens now in terms of my recruiting process? I dont think fast was ever used to describe T.J. as a young athlete (thats a polite way to say that T.J. was slow). Considering though that shes only in the 50th percentile so far as height, that seems pretty solid. These former college players I hired still love the game and they're normally very interested in helping young players with athleticism, desire, and a dream, like they once had. THE ADAGIO FLOW MACHINE -a Stress Management Technique for Music Therapy; .
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